Iโd love for us all to fall madly in love with ourselves and to know nothing human is alien to us. I believe weโre all connected by mycelial-like strands good writing can make shimmer. I write and edit and teach editing and roam to find myself in the beings we share this world with, in you, and for that glorious rush that comes when words pour between us and we see each other, ourselves anew. Iโve lived nomadically out of a backpack, on a bike, in an RV, in a truck, and in a van. Much of my writing comes from those treks.
writes Holly Starleyโs Rolling Desk
1. ย ย Why Substack?
In a class on pitching to magazines in early 2023, the instructor mentioned her Substack. โStart a Substackโ took its place at the bottom of a deeply tiered pile of to-do lists. I eventually started poking around on the platform. In June, after soliciting pre-subscriptions from friends and family, along with the 23 subscribers to my blog Road Quill, I sent โThe Column That Wasnโtโ to 56 inboxes, my heart aflutter.
My why at the time? Find an audience. Give nearly completed pieces the stark relief of a finger poised over a โsend nowโ button. Impose deadlines on my practice.ย
My why now? Nurture the deep connections Iโve formed. Keep learning from and creating alongside the brilliant minds, hearts, and words Iโve discovered. Discover more. Connect more. Be in conversation with contemporary writers here on this modern version of great literary circles. Be a citizen of the world, which is to say strengthen ties and read with and engage with the perspectives of writers in disparate places, geographically and otherwise and remain keenly aware weโre all in it together. Ha! Nothing too lofty.
PS. I changed the name from Road Quill to Rolling Desk because of how often I had to explain the title. Should have realized a bunch of writers and readers are the perfect audience for the Quill. Not that I donโt adore Rolling Desk.ย
2. ย ย How long did it take you to find your groove?
The thing about groove, for me, is itโs a yes/and thing. Iโm at once always in my groove and always finding it. Which is to say my groove is sometimes smooth, sometimes awkward, always evolving.
3. ย ย How has it changed you?
Sooooo much. Those connections I mentioned earlier have transformed my world, both personally and professionally.
Iโve only half joked about taking Ruby van Jangles (in whose belly the original rolling desk was born) on a Substack tour. (Iโd be rolling in my new van, Vivian van Gogh, now.) Just imagine the cuppas and vistas and conversations Iโd share in every US state and throughout Canada. Then Iโd have to park Viv and take a flight or two dozen for a multi-continent leg, including the UK (you know Iโd be heading your way, Eleanor), Spain, France, Sweden, Scotland, Japan, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, India, Nigeria, and Egypt, to name a few. Maybe the South American tour could be by train. Doesnโt it sound dreamy? Anyone else want to join?
Which brings me to the Caravan. Iโve joined forces with three incredibly talented writers/teachers, whose work I found via this platform, to launch Caravan Writers Collective, a project founded on our shared belief in the transformative power of good writing. Having taken each otherโs classes and availed ourselves of each otherโs expertise, not to mention fallen in love with each otherโs writing, we realized what a boon that kind of support is. We saw, too, a needโto make the intricacies of the profession of writing more accessible. Hence, the Caravan. Iโm super excited to see what unfolds.
Plus, on a personal note, in late 2023, a change to my health took me by surprise and sort of pulled the rug out from under me career wise. So the Caravan couldnโt have rolled up at a better time.
Finally, I have to point once more to the exquisite writing you can find on this platform. The words of both well-known writers and those Iโd have likely not discovered otherwise now live in my heart, fill my reading hours, and inform my thinking and creating. One new Substack slogan says, โThe media isnโt dead. Itโs on Substack.โ I dig it. Yes, the mediaโs here. And also the conversationโs here. And itโs a gorgeous conversation.
4. ย ย What mistakes have you made?
Many, Iโm certain.ย
I was gonna be cheeky and say only that. But Iโve enjoyed reading what others see as mistakes, so Iโll list a couple. Especially in earlier days, I published a few pieces that werenโt quite ready. While deep in the early throes of my health challenge, I hosted a series of online workshops on self-editingโa subject I absolutely adore teaching. But the launch was off, timing wise. And the series was shorter than planned. Itโs terribly irksome to feel I may have overpromised / underdelivered.ย
I donโt believe itโs a mistake, but I expect if fast growth were a higher priority, Iโd be wise to be less broad. Rolling Desk essentially publishes four categories of piecesโlife in a van, travel and nomadic life in other forms, living with an autoimmune disease, and collaborative work (a collection of stories on the kindness of strangers, often by guest authors; interviews and profiles; and curated lists). I suspect a more focused approach would promote more rapid growth.
5. ย ย To pay or not to pay?
To pay for sure. For one, writing is work. It takes time and dedication. I recently published a piece on the Rolling Desk, โLucky,โ that Iโve written on and off for three years.
Two, writing is invaluable. A cultural shift around the way we value art would make the world a better place. If good art, good writing shapes usย /ย our worlds, it stands to reason we want more of it. And if indie artists and publishers were more highly esteemedโand monetary reward is a primary way we show esteemโmore would be able to put their work into the flow of public consciousness.
Iโd love it if we all could be paid well for our work. And I take out paid subscriptions and buy the books of as many of my fellow writers here as I can afford and will do so more as my ability to do so increases.ย
6. ย ย What artistic and technical choices have you made?
My career has included positions as managing editor for various projects. Among my favorite was a mini-magazine, Quick Release, on bicycling advocacy. I adored much of that workโoverseeing a long-term editorial calendar, weaving subtle themes both through individual issues and over multiple issues, setting style guides, collaborating with designers on artistic direction, and assigning projects to and working with other writers and artists. So Iโve enjoyed incorporating a bit of that into Rolling Desk.
Imagery and audio are two examples. Posts are illustrated with either photography from my travels or artwork available in the public domain.1 Because I love audio and have a background in radio, I read much of my work. The Rolling Desk podcast is available on platforms like Spotify.
The narrative voiceย /ย persona of Rolling Desk isโhow to say this?โslightly gentler, slightly more constrained than that of other writing I do.
Lastly, I love publishing work of other authors on the desk. Itโs an opportunity to promote writing I love and believe my readers would love, to feature both writers I aspire to and emerging writers. Have you a story on the kindness of strangers? Submit it here.ย
7. ย ย Whatโs been the effect on your writing?
Iโve made a career in the world of writingโediting manuscripts, managing small publications, ghost and collaborative writing, writing instruction, and briefly journalism. Yet much of this work has been adjacent to my primary writing goal: Iโd always meant to be a literary and travel writer. For years, I told myself, Soon.
Publishing on Substack has deepened my practice and exploration of craft and opened the floodgate I was keeping closed: Iโm partway through two memoirs (one in book proposal stage), with a third in early stages. Iโm submitting regularly to literary journals and contests. And recently Iโve had the opportunity to go back to two founding rootsโjournalism and instruction. I hope to reveal more about the former soon. And, of course, Caravan Writers Collective is the latter.ย
8. ย ย In it for the long haul?
Absolutely!
Hereโs a resource list for finding art, most of which I got from someone who Iโd love to credit if I could remember who he was: Wikiart, The Met Open Access, The Getty Open Content Program,The National Gallery of Art Open Access, The Cleveland Museum of Art Open Access, and Europeana. Thank you, friend!
Thank you, Eleanor, for including me among all the wonderful writers and creators you've featured here in this fabulous interview series. What a delight and a pleasure to be among your writer fam. ๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ
Reading this was like a quick coffee date with one of my favorite writers here. Itโs fun to hear the origins and read your perspective on how itโs been and how itโs going. Iโm off, into the world to have an encounter with a kind stranger so I can write about it for Holly. (Do herons count?)